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This is a 9mm Luger manufactured by Simson & Suhl chamber dated 1925 with a 4" (98mm) barrel


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The first toggle link is marked with the Simson & Suhl monogram, and there is the "V" rear sight on the last toggle link. The extractor is marked "Geladen" on the left side and the safety is marked "Gesichert" with the safe position being downward.

Simson & Co., manufactured Lugers for the German Military from 1922 to 1934 in Suhl Germany. The Simson Luger association was a by-product of the Treaty of Versailles. Then as the only producer of Lugers, Simson inherited (bought?) all the parts, dies and equipment of Erfurt after the First World War.


1854 the brothers Löb und Moses Simson bought one third of a steel hammer  factory in Suhl (Germany). There the production of charcoal steel began and the firm Simson & Co. was founded 1856. The following years they produced guns and gun barrels. The enterprise  1896 production of bicycles in 1896.

The Allied Commission formed by the Treaty of Versailles established Simson & Co., as the only "accepted" Luger producer after WWI, however when Adolf Hitler came to power in 1936 he forced the Jewish family Simson to flee the country. Within the framework of dispossession of Jewish industrialists a trustee undertook the firm, thereby arose a merger with other factories the "Berlin Suhler Waffen- und Fahrzeugwerke" (BSW).  In 1946 the Soviet military disassembled the factory and took it to Russia as war booty.


The grips are walnut and match the gun. The frame has a stock lug.  Proof marks are well struck and clearly visible. Even the grip screws, the magazine release and other smaller parts  have been proofed with the Eagle 6

The tale remains in the proofs. Here is visible the four digit serial number, the exact caliber, and the 1st and 2nd Military parts proof on the front trigger guard and under the locking bolt lever. 

This is a designated P-08 Model chambered for 9mm with a 98mm (4") barrel with a fixed serrated front sight.

There is a 1925 chamber date and Simson proofs extensively on the gun.

The serial number appears on the front of the frame, on the left side of the receiver, under the barrel and the last two digits on most small parts. All serials match except the magazine which is correct but not  matching.


There are inspector marks all over the weapon in a variety of eagle stamps. Most prominent is the Eagle 6 Simpson Military First Inspection proof.




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The gun is very clean showing slight  wear on the muzzle, the side plate and front part of rails. The bluing is 98.5% and the straw is 98%.  This weapon is designated as a Curios and Relic (C&R) and be sent to those licensed persons.

It is entirely subjective to give any Luger a rating of excellent or fine, just as it is to declare it xx% blued or strawed. Few Lugers are out of the box new and these are premium priced. Bluing percentages is like Beauty, in the eye of the beholder.  We strive to provide pictures so you can judge for yourself if the gun meets your criteria.

Note below the 1st and 2nd Military proofs, the "33" parts qualifications proof, and the final acceptance proof, All finely struck and good examples. The Weimar Eagle on the receiver and the barrel distinguish this as a new-production gun vs. the re-works that Simson & Co., were contracted to provide.

The final acceptance stamp also appears on the front toggle.

If one is to have one Simson in their collection this would be the one. If you are a Simson collector you would know how difficult it is to find one of these undated models in this fine of condition.


Quality Simson's are very difficult to find, much like the Krieghoff, when you find a good one you won't see another like it for a long time. Questions to:


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